Good post, doyle.

What you need to realize, though, about the economy, about the derivatives market, about capitalism, about the whole system we have going right now that is due to crash and collapse completely, is that it doesn't exist. It is entirely fabricated. Virtually all money today is electronic, and it will never see the light of day.

So when it does come down, it really shouldn't matter to anyone, unless they continue to believe in its viability. If we were to collectively realize this fact, that this whole system is fake, bogus, we could start building a real global society immediately. And the evolution would be completely nonviolent. We have the infrastructure. It's not like buildings are going to collapse everywhere and the national and international power and communication grids will disappear (unless we choose to destroy them). We just have to change the way we think. We have all the resources we need. Scarcity is a product of the inherent inequity of the system. When the rich elite hoard all the resources and tell us there isn't enough to go around, and we believe them, that greed infects the whole society, and people will inevitably react by taking whatever they can get. But if we make the simple shift to say, hey, there really is abundance everywhere, we just have to give it to each other and work together rather than against each other to form our societal structures, everyone wins, and all of a sudden, abundance becomes the accepted state of things.

You have to reevaluate what it really means for the system to unravel. When I say I am making preparations, I don't mean that I am doing the survivalist dance and storing up food and ammo. While I do think it is very important to have resources available in the event of a large-scale disaster, like you said, being able to survive beyond a matter of weeks to months is not only impractical but unlikely. That's why you have to take this shift in consciousness that you see manifesting and apply it to your everyday life. You have to help others make the progression. You have to push the envelope and look beyond the crisis. It's a problem of imagination. And the more you imagine a future of destruction and suffering, the more likely it will come to pass. Whereas, if you can find that place in your mind where you can imagine a new landscape, a new world, one based on unconditional love and generosity, you can transform Earth into the Garden again.

So don't simply make peace with the world and be at one with things. Reach out to those around you. Volunteer your time and your energy and your intellect to whomever will accept it. Give as much you possibly can to the world with no expectation of being reimbursed for it. And I guarantee you the love will multiply tenfold.

It reminds me of the story that goes something like how in hell, everyone is sitting at a dinner table and their forks are too long for them to manage, and they can't get the food in their mouths, and everyone starves. While in heaven, everyone is sitting at the same dinner table with the same long forks, but they are well nourished because they started to feed each other instead.

When a hungry person asks you for bread and you have some, you will give it. But as you give the bread, even though your interaction may only be very brief, what really matters is this moment of shared 'Being', of which the bread is only a symbol. A deep healing takes place within it. In that moment, there is no giver, no receiver.

- Eckhart Tolle

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Ron Paul on the G20 Summit

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COtE1J5NMbo[/youtube]

Good video. Ron Paul has always been well known for his economic views. The problem is, there aren't enough people who want think in terms of simplicity. It would be really easy to stabilize the world economy, but greed ultimately will do everyone in. The big wigs will purposely crash the markets in order for them to make their millions/billions and it will be at the expense of the world faltering.

One world government and/or monetary system is a very bad and dangerous idea and I hope it's never sought out.

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You make me lol in my pants, PD~

Sick... I don't even know what that means, haha.

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Aren't you waiting for Jesus' second coming?

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No, I'm waiting for Spring Training in February to roll around so I can go play baseball for a living.

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That's great, putting your intellect where it belongs.

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Hahaha, fucking hilarious.

Yeah, it's kind of like spending hours and hours posting conspiracy theories on a snowboarding website.

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Ahem, no one here snowboards.

I love this guy -

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I0QN-FYkpw[/youtube]

I may be only fifteen, but I feel stupid when I say I'm not too familiar with the situation. I wish there was a quick, easy source to help me understand it better.

Reading earlier in the topic, I found people took Elevation's posts way too personally while ignoring the facts he stated. Not a good idea.

I suppose that's all the input I have until I research some more.

Now I know the cause of the recession... Peter Schiff's bad attitude.

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http://shortsaleblogger.com/foreclosure-trash-out/

This is what the start of a depression looks like.

Check out that Crash Course that Lord Elevation(lol) posted. If you've had a year of basic economics class in school you should be fine, but even if not, it should make you understand what's going on even if you don't understand the meanings of the stats and charts.

That Peter Schiff video is brilliant. It shows the mainstream hacks laughing at him, basically calling him a "conspiracy theorist". Heres another video you might find similarly amusing:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X06kz9dzXho[/youtube]

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So... RE Virus.

What's your take on this Canadian coalition nonsense?

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What Canadian coalition nonsense?

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welcome to the club....
no, seriously, about what elevation said about the system that's fake, and reorganising, etc...
It sounds brilliant, but you must know that the people (read: the dumb mass) are not waiting for mayor changes. No, they want the world to stay the way it is, so they don't have to worry about anything except their own lives.
And besides, I totally agree with PD on this, is that the economy wont let you. They have too much profit of the old system. What do you think what happened to communism? If you skip the part with the dictatorship and genocides, the pure communism wasn't that bad. (you must make a difference with stalinism and others, of course) They too started from the idea that they had to reshape society.

Please, correct me if I'm wrong, then I know I failed at my history exam...

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I assume you're referring to socialism, which, from my knowledge, is communism without the leader. But people will always want to strive for power and superiority, which is why capitalism is in tact. We can't simply trash our system as unstable as it is.

As fake as the money system may be due to its literal nonexistance, we have to wonder how much value we really place on some piece of paper with some ink on it.

That's the one. Sorry for the mistake.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PIEGK0IbA4&eurl=

Another great Peter Schiff/Ron Paul movie...

Ron Paul is just a tad too right wing for my tastes though... his policies would really just continue the exacerbation of inequality between people, the rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer, it's the nature of capital. Those who have it, will ultimately dominate those who do not.

But, I mean, it's great that he's telling people how fucked up the economy is, sure. I don't think Ron Paul will (or could be) the saviour of the American economy. He's just a canary in a coal mine, all we can really do is get out of the coal mine before it explodes, there's nothing that can really be done with the coal mine at this point.

I mean, when the derivatives market bursts. Were all fucked. How come neither Peter Schiff, nor Ron Paul is talking about derivatives? I feel like they are more trying to make a name for themselves than really trying to address the economic situation. I almost feel like they are hoping the economy will get worse every day so they can say "I told ya so".

However, one of the best ways to get closer to the Brahman is to shed all worldly possessions. This crisis could really have a dissolving effect on the collective ego of the West.

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Hmmmm...

I'm sure we'll all be fine.....


lol~

That's it... I'm dropping out of school and opening a tumbleweed business... or maybe hobo bindles...

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