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crispncrunchy wrote:Ummm I don't find Christianity very Zen. To me it runs by implementing fear in the believer, that doesn't feel very Zen to me.
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Filip wrote:Unicycler wrote:Well i am christian.
Atheism.
There is no such thing as god,holy 10 rules and other bullshit that the cato's created to keep in power IMO Human created god not God created Human.
Coruption and false.
That is what they learn you in the church.No freedom of speach(even thought they blaber bullshit that god gave you freewill...BULLSHIT - The free will is the Mind).
Also i've seen recently this show with steaphan hawking..that made me more clear about the creation of the world.
MESS wrote:Actually, RedTyga, you do believe in a religion, and that is the one of atheism. You don't have any solid proof God does not exist, just as I have none that he does exist, yet you believe that there is no God.
Kav wrote:The closest thing I can call myself is a Deist. I believe in a God, but I don't believe in single specific one defined like in other religions.
I also think atheism is an extreme perspective. I used to call myself an atheist/agnostic when I started to doubt the existence of the catholic God, because I always thought there was a God, just not the one defined by catholicism. I started to change my way of thought when I started to learn of other religions, and started to think "Why can't my God just be a combination of different Gods? Why do only one of the Gods from different ethnicities have to be THE God to worship? How is it that there are all these stories for each God, yet only ONE of them can be our true God?" These are the kinds of questions I asked myself, and in the end I came to the conclusion that maybe there really was a God, but in the end, when the world started to break apart into 7 continents and the world started to drift into different groups, that maybe each religious group started to experience different phenomenas from the same God and started to make assumptions of what their God really is. That, mixed with millenias upon millenias of generations constantly learning of different interpretations of their own religion, started to drift apart more and more.
tl;dr I believe in a single God, yet believe that all religions are right in some way about the truth of who God is. The only thing that's impossible is to tell what's real and what isn't.
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Resetting wrote:my "religion" is reason, nature, science, whatever you want to call it. the objective i have set myself is simply to exist and create a net growth in happiness, producing as little suffering as possible in the process.
i see the dark side of religion, to control the populace. and i don't like it.
there are good sides to religion, i can see that. for example, those who dont feel like they can carry on with life on their own can look to their may or may not be real friend god, and ask him for help, and then when something good happens, they can correlate whatever it was that happened to make their life a little bit more bearable to their god thing, and they feel like they arent so alone anymore, even though nothing has really changed, theyre still the same person they were before, but displacing their own strength off to a higher power seems to comfort some people, so, good for them i suppose.
"cause when push comes to shove, its all down to you!"
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